WALTONS DIGEST 10-2000:

Hi there everyone,

Yes, another week's gone and it's digest time again. Where are the weeks going? Still beautiful weather over here, but not quite as hot as its been, however we're still in the high 20's and 30's most days. Still hot enough for the air conditioner. We put ducted air conditioning in during January and it has been just wonderful to have. Our house just hasn't had a chance to heat up like it has in the past. It's fantastic at night too. No more sleepless nights because of the heat. Generally it's been a much more comfortable summer in the Kearney household.

I received my Waltons newsletter from the Waltons Mountain Museum this week and, once again, it's full of great things. There's a small review about the Smithsonian honoring The Waltons, a Waltons alphabet (which is great fun), and of course, all of the important Walton's Museum dates for the year. No doubt you would all be aware that the Museum reopened on March 4.

Joe Conley will be visiting on April 29-30. There is a Mothers' Day recognition on May 14, a Fathers' Day recognition on June 18 and a Grandparents' Day recognition on September 10 and finally the Waltons Cast Reunion on October 21-22.

Other things which might appeal to some of you are an Antique and Classic Car Exhibit on July 15 and a quilt exhibition during September 23-30. Sounds like quite an eventful and busy year at the Museum.

A brochure came in my newsletter about A Mother's Day Celebration which has been organised for Saturday May 20. I have seen a bit about this on the http://www.the-waltons.com site, but for those of you who haven't visited recently, Maureen O'Hara, Patricia Neal and Michael Learned are planned to be in attendance, providing there is no other conflicts for them.

I notice it will be benifitting the Nick Springer Fund for Meningococcemia. Perhaps some of you know more about this fund, as I don't, but Tim had a very close friend die last year, very suddenly from the menigococcal bacteria, so I'm sure it is a very worthy cause. It's a shocking illness, hitting very quickly and progressing almost before anything can be done often. I certainly hope the museum is able to raise a lot of money for this fund through this celebration. 

If you want further information about this event, I would suggest you check out the official waltons site, or contact the Waltons Mountain Museum. I look forward to hearing more about the event as the time gets closer. Please let us know if you're going.

Now, as I said, the newsletter also contains "The Waltons" Alphabet. I thought it was a terrific idea, but I'm sure that it would have been very hard to decide which important events or people were included. B for example is for Boatwright University, a very worthy mention, but I think I would have put the Baldwin sisters here as I think they were fantastic, quirky characters. But by adding Boatwright, it opened the way to mention characters like Tom Povich and Professor Ghote. Naturally A is for Ashley Longworth. I quote from this section.

"Who can ever forget that poignant moment when the sisters discover a hidden letter addressed to Emily behind the portrait of the judge."

Can anyone please tell me what episode this happened in? I have heard it somewhere along the line but can't remember more details. There is nothing listed for X...can we think of any? All I can think of is x-rays which John Boy might have had when he hit his head in The Love Story. Why not send in some other suggestions too, of things you might have included.

Talk to you all again next week,

Goodnight everyone,

Karen.
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Remember I asked last week about what POV meant? Well many of you know far more than I and told me it was Point of View. Thank you to all who replied, and I add some of the responses below:

POV Point of view.. Where the Camera it to focus in on- Carole

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Karen, POV in scripts means "point of view" and it means the camera is showing what the actor or actress is looking at during the scene. In this case, the point of view is Erin's, and she is seeing the horse and rider.

Hope that helps!

Geri Ann

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In Maryland, we get The Waltons on TNN at Noon and 5 pm EST.. they have been making a lot of changes on TNN and have added Matt Houston and Cagney and Lacey to their lineup...

O, I forgot to mention that the V O is view over - usually a moving scene. The teasers were not cut out of the real show. They were indeed all written special for that part. It gave the writer the write to tell what parts he/she wanted/wants done..... Thus it is not left up to the studios to cut and paste.

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Hi Karen,

The abbreviation you asked about [pov] refers to "point of view" in dramatic writing. As regards the digest, several months ago a discussion was made about the Baldwin ladies and our individual favorite episodes featuring the sisters. Although it is typical of me to fall way behind the crowd, nonetheless I finally decided it for myself with the epsiode that aired on fri.3/10 on TNN. It was the epsiode in which John Boy is valedictorian of his senior class and the Baldwin's give him a tie clip. As they do so John Boy quite gallantly gives them each a special kiss, then as the scene ends each of the sisters are left sort of wistfully staring off, flattered and grateful for his little show of affection for them. I found it utterly charming!

Mary

KAREN'S COMMENT: Mary it's sometimes hard to pull just one episode out of the 220 they made when you need it. Sometimes you need to watch them again and think "Oh yes. That one shows a really nice side of the Baldwins". They really did have a soft spot for the Walton family didn't they, especially Jason I think.

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Greetings!

Bill....I believe that The Waltons is now on at 5 PM on TNN. It has changed here in Virginia also, and that is when it's on. By the way, I spent four happy years in school in Ann Arbor.....and have many happy memories.

Nancy

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Someone asked about the number of children in "Spencer's Mountain." I don't know if you meant the movie or the novel. In the novel, there were actually 11 children! Clay-Boy was the eldest, and then there were Matthew, Mark, Luke and John (all named from the Bible, of course), and the baby was Donnie if I recall correctly. The girls were Becky, Shirley and Pattie-Cake. Then Olivia had twins, named Franklin Delano and Eleanor after the President and First Lady! And if I remember (it's been awhile since I last read the novel), Clay himself (the equivalent of John from the TV series) was one of many brothers - something like nine all told. (Grandpa and Grandma Spencer were sure busy, weren't they!) The only names in the novel that were kept for the TV series were Grandpa Zebulon and Mama Olivia; all the other names were changed, although they kept the idea of using "Boy" as a nickname for the eldest son, changing it from "Clay-Boy" to "John-Boy."

Geri Ann

KAREN'S COMMENT: Did they keep Zebulon? I thought it was only Olivia they kept. Yes there's quite a lot of differences between the two when you get down to it. I had thought in the movie that Pattie Cake was the youngest. Can you imagine poor Kami Cotler if she had been called Pattie Cake Walton, rather than Elizabeth? I think that there was a Patty in Apple's Way though!

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Hi Karen:

I write this with little hope that you'll actually receive this. I've written two or three times before and have received no indication that you've received my notes. Nonetheless... "POV" means from the Point Of View of the viewer or character. Also, as to the role of the Grandparents in the decision making for the family...remember that in reality, Earl Hamner lived with his mother's parents - not his father's. That might explain why the decisions seemed to come from "Pa Walton". It would have been his home with Olivia's parents residing with his family. Just some thoughts...

Mark

KAREN'S COMMENT: As you can see Mark, I did get this. I don't think I realised that Earl Hamner actually lived with his mother's parents. Interesting.

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Hi Karen,

POV is an abbreviation often used in movie and TV scripts for Point of View. It indicates from whose point of view the shot is taken. For example, in shot #3, the camera is showing the view from the rider's vantage point. In shot #6, the camera is showing us the pov through the windshield (i.e. Jason & Erin's view of the horse and rider).

BTW Karen, I have been on this list for a year...just lurking, and I wanted to tell you how much I enjoy receiving these posts. These Waltons Digests are a great medium to hear about other's reactions to the wonderful characters and stories of The Waltons. Thanks very much indeed for all the trouble you take to collect all of our "points of view" :-) and keeping us in touch with each other by sharing like this. It's funny...although I've never written before, I feel in a way as though I know you and some of the others. Always look forward to hearing about what's going on "Down Under", both weather-wise, and in the details about you and your family. It adds a really warm and friendly touch. I also see people posting here that I have "talked to" on the Waltons Forum and Dot's chat room...It's a small Walton's world, after all.

The last several weeks I have been extremely busy with a couple of projects, and haven't been able to watch the Waltons. This afternoon, I was lucky enough to catch the last 15 mins of the episode where John Boy graduates from Miss Hunter's school. What a glorious episode...especially the moment when John Boy wakes up to discover his new suit, remade by Olivia and Grandma from Grandpa's "going-to-meet-his-maker-suit"! The warmth and love in those moments when John Boy throws on the jacket, and goes into the hallway only to find the whole family waiting there......you can actually feel the love coming from the screen. What beautiful writing and acting.

Anyway...just thought I'd share that brief Walton moment.

Again, Karen...thanks so much for your hard work on the Digest, and please keep up the great work!

Daniel

KAREN'S COMMENT: Thank you very much for your comments Daniel, and for coming out of lurking. I hope you won't wait so long to write again. :-) The Waltons world is indeed a small one, and it's amazing really when you think that so many of us, from all over the world, with all sorts of different backgrounds, come together each week, or more frequently if you are a regular to the forum or the chat room, and the one common link between us all is simply a love of The Waltons. I think Earl Hamner would have been amazed if, back in 1973 or 74, could have looked forward to 2000 and known just how successful his show about simple country/mountain folk during the Depression, would be. He deserves all the honours he gets in my opinion. :-)) BTW I love Grandma's line about not being able to wear tweed (I think) to meet your maker. Why not?!? I wonder what she would have approved of.

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I believe POV is point of vision. I have from time to time fancied writing a screenplay and my memory has faded just a tad bit...

Hm... I went to send you the address of a site with abbreviations and this letter was still sitting here. Here is the site.

http://www.dailyscript.com/help/glossary.html

KAREN'S COMMENT: Thankyou. I'll check that one out.
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I remember asking my Mom when I was a kid and we were all watching The Waltons, why the kids went to school barefoot. She told me that back then ( which she was around then) it was hard enough to buy one pair of shoes per year per kid let alone more than one pair, so the kids generally went barefooted as long in the year as they could to save the shoes til they REALLY needed them in the winter months.

Julie :)

KAREN'S COMMENT: It's hard enough these days with the price of school shoes too!

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In the Homecoming they had 8 children. They combined two children and created the part of Ben. Do any of you remember a childrens book that came out in 1946 called The Store At Crisscross Corners by Marjorie Medary published by Abington-Cokesbury Press? It is a description of a country store that is quite similar to Ike Godseys store and it also has an episode of what happened when there was nobody there to run the store that was similar to a Walton episode. Uncanny!It has been out of print for years but it is still avalable on line from Barnes and Noble out of print and I am sure Amazon too.

Donald

KAREN'S COMMENT: Amazon is a terrific place for out of print books. Another search engine sort of thing I use for old books is http://www.bibliofind.com. If you're searching for Waltons books, it's a great way to find some.

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Hi again, Karen and everyone!

If you find out what P O V means, please tell us. I've wondered, too. I know that v o is voice over -- could it be "picture over voice"?

Re The Homecoming: it was a story about Christmas Eve of 1933, the year when Mr. Hamner remembered that his own father had been late getting home. That's a true fact -- the rest is fiction. It still had the names from Spencer's  Mountain because it was an additional story to go with the original book and its subtitle was "A Spencer's Mountain Christmas". The 8 children's names  were:

  • Clay-Boy ("a thin boy of 15" -- always writing)
  • Matt (14, "self-reliant and full of promise")
  • Becky ("13 and had a mind of her own" --the ornery/out-spoken one)
  • Shirley ("beautiful -- the sensitive one")
  • Mark ("all business yet wanting a hug")
  • Luke (age 10, "the handsome wild one")
  • John ("who was 9 and practical" and the piano player)
  • Pattie-Cake (age 8, spoiled, who "took everybody literally")

The "old lady bootleggers" were Miss Emma and Miss Etta. The grandparents were Olivia's parents and did not live with them.

One can easily recognize the character traits which Mr. Hamner carried over into his TV series. He also kept the names of Ike and Ep Bridges the same in the TV series as in the book.

As for why Grandpa didn't have more say in major decisions, that, too, was the way of the times. Older people were glad to give up "authority" to their children. They had worked long, hard, and were tired of heavy responsibilities. At my age, I can sympathize with that feeling, having been left a widow at age 39 with children to rear, educate, and work a job and a half to support. I'm delighted to have them assume whatever family responsibilities they want now that they are age 36 - 47, with their own homes and families, but don't ask. They still ask for advice once in a while, though.

To respond to Ed: Yes, going barefoot was done a lot if there was no money for shoes, except to church or in the winter. During WWII my shoe coupons went to my brothers. My feet had stopped growing and Mother put celuloid (before plastic) or cardboard in my shoes to cover the holes worn in the soles so I could wear them longer. Recently I saw a health program on TV where an MD talked about how it is much better for babies to learn to walk in bare feet and not wear shoes until they have to. Their feet developed to be stronger and have a more natural shape, he said. So, we weren't wrong! I still never wear shoes in the house when no one is there to see.

- C J

KAREN'S COMMENT: Thankyou for your insight CJ. I seem to remember one of the Waltons books starting off with looking at the children's shoes and seeing if cardboard might help some of them to last a little longer. I still haven't read The Homecoming (simply too busy with too many other things to read at the moment) but hopefully soon.

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